unalienable rights

[foxguardian]

Wednesday oct-22 2008

Nikiski high school held a presidential mock convention
One resolution was on the rights of homosexually proud communities to engage in a marriage
I was sencered when I spoke out ... "it is in my belief that it is an unalienable right for homosexual marriage" I was sencored for "my own protection"

I was as well removed for speaking out for the fur community when the student body and teachers decided it was a distraction and a sexually centered act to were fur and to show off your furry side
Needless to say I was very displeased with the lack of knowledge the faculty has.
We furs in my school only do that when there not looking lol
But in a series matter we are no longer allowed to sport a tail and ears in my school. Monday I shall come to school in full suit along with 30 others in my school of approximately 200 including faculty.


the principal said i was sencored to avoid riot but i think hes aginst furrs and homosexual marege

[Oni]

Wow I don't like the fact that you were censored. I am glad that you spoke out.

Ya people should never know what us furries do behind closed doors.

FURRY PRIDE all the way man.

[Rachael]

Honestly, I can sort of understand the ears and tail thing--not because it's sexual but because it can be seen as "distracting."  Tails can also get in the way.  I mean, I don't know how lax your dress code is.  If things like hats and...uh...hats are banned, I can see why furry accessories might be banned, too.

But that sucks about the homosexuality thing.  Then again, I never could understand the logic behind denying gays the right to get married.

[foxguardian]

i has a t-shirt that says fur pride

i am not allowed to ware it because its too sexually orientated

almost no dress code
i was allowed to go to school in a short t and short skirt for senior sex change day

[Taylor-MadeAK]

Wow I don't like the fact that you were censored. I am glad that you spoke out.

I don't agree that he was censored, man.  I mean, the last time I reviewed the rights listed in the Bill of Rights or the Constitution of the United States of America, marriage was not mentioned as an inalienable right.

Let's set forth a definition here:

Natural rights (or inalienable rights) are rights which are not contingent upon the laws, customs, or beliefs or a particular society or polity. In contrast, legal rights (sometimes also called civil rights) are rights conveyed by a particular legal or political entity, rights as enshrined in law, and as such are contingent upon local laws, customs, or beliefs.

Natural rights are thus necessarily universal, whereas legal rights are culturally and politically relative.

Marriage requires the consent of two people, and that means it is a legal contract.  Contractual rights are always created by the community, even if the "community" involved is only two people.  Since the community is normally a larger polity, and since all legal contracts are agreements not only between the contracting parties, but also with the entire community, therefore the community has the power to regulate marriage (and childbirth), and has exercised that power since time immemorial, for the benefit of the community.  In practical terms, this means that in the United States the individual States are the ones who can decide who can get married and when.

It is not your individual right to marry whoever you want.  The teachers understand this better than you do, and he was probably forced to back down because he opened his mouth and refused shut it when politely asked to do so.

I was as well removed for speaking out for the fur community when the student body and teachers decided it was a distraction and a sexually centered act to were fur and to show off your furry side
Needless to say I was very displeased with the lack of knowledge the faculty has.
We furs in my school only do that when there not looking lol
But in a series matter we are no longer allowed to sport a tail and ears in my school. Monday I shall come to school in full suit along with 30 others in my school of approximately 200 including faculty.

This may come as a surprise to you, but the school faculty are the ones who make the rules at the school.  Not the students.  The school board are the ones who get to decide what the dress code is, and if they feel that "furry" accessories like tails and ears are to disruptive for everyday wear, then they have every right to enforce that policy.

almost no dress code
i was allowed to go to school in a short t and short skirt for senior sex change day

That was a special event.  I doubt you could get away with doing that every day.  But that should give you some inspiration: why not lobby your student government to arrange a "Furry Day?"

[Goman Fox]

I remember when I was in high school, there were a few days I wore my tail around to class.  All but one of them were special "spirit" days that the tail vaguely fit the theme for, lol.  Some people and teachers thought it was weird, but most of the responses I got were positive or neutral.  Although my school was a lot larger than foxguardian's, so there was a more diverse group of students and faculty that were probably more accepting of "weird" things.

Although for you to conclude that your principal is discriminating against furries or homosexuals might be a bit of a stretch.  Like TM said, faculty members in schools usually know a lot more than students seem to think they do, lol.  While it's good to voice your opinion, if you were told to not do something or wear specific accessories and you do it anyways, that's not the best way to go about things.  Unlike when you're in public, you really don't have full freedom to express yourself in school, especially if it's distracting.

Whether your teachers like furries or not, you have to admit that someone showing up in a full or partial fursuit for anything other than some sort of school spirit thing would be distracting, especially in the middle of class.

And you really can't say that bringing up sensitive topics like gay marriage isn't distracting either.  It's cool that you're in so much support of it, but a high school probably isn't the best place to bring it up.  I'm sure if you mentioned other sensitive topics like abortion, you would have been "censored" as well.

With certain topics, people generally have one firm opinion that will not change no matter how much they debate it, even though they'll debate it indefinitely if you let them.  It's just better to let those topics go in some situations.

When you get into college and such, then you'll have all the room you want to speak about issues like that, as long as it's not during class (in most cases).  I mean, just two or three months ago, the pro-life group on campus set up an anti-abortion thing outside on campus here at UAA (for the second time) that's actually caused a lot of problems for some students, but because of their freedom to express their opinions, they were protected.  I never saw the stuff they put up myself, but I've heard the pictures they had up were pretty graphic and they were saying things like comparing abortion to the genocide of the Jewish people during the Holocaust.  There were even signs along the walkways near where they were that warned people of the graphic nature of their display and such.

And this wasn't in some secluded part of campus you had to know where to find to go to see it, it was where people couldn't avoid it if they had classes nearby.  I read in the school paper that a lot of students made complaints about it because they were basically forced to see it if they had to go to class, but the school didn't want to deny the group's freedom of speech so they were left alone.  At least, that's how it was the first time, if I remember.  I believe this last time they did it, they actually were a little bit farther off.  Still public enough that some people saw their display on their way to class, but not quite as much.

Anyways, again, it's great that you want to voice your opinion about topics you feel strongly about, but remember, there are both good and bad times to do so.  Unless you're in a debate class or team or something in high school, chances are there'll never be a good time to bring up gay marriage.

[Taylor-MadeAK]

As usual, Fox is more politely and eloquently spoken than I am.

[foxguardian]

   my problume is that it was a political mock convention where any one can give there opinion and i was censored because they knew i was going to give a serious speach about the topic and it was going to opean some eyes and some mouths,
   To show how serious it was to a mear highschool student and not to mention the fact that they had a live streem to the internet (should be found on youtube as nikiski high mock convention 2008) and ak news crew was on the floor.

i donno maybe they were  scared i would cause something to actually happen

[Oni]

Umm....I think they were trying to prevent you from making both yourself and the school look stupid.......

[Taylor-MadeAK]

Oh look!  More stuff to add to the Oni Filter!

Funnies aside, this kid must like the taste of his own foot almost as much as you do, Oni.  It seems like no matter how hard people try to keep him from eating it, he's just hell-bent on putting that sucker in his mouth.

[Oni]

Feet taste good when cooked right.

A little salt, and some vinegar and mmm nummy.

[foxguardian]

ok ok  i get it nom nom nom

[Taylor-MadeAK]

[Rottweiler]

Mind, you also throw in the PTA, the School Board, angry fanatical conservative parents, etc.

You'd have gotten the same treatment if you'd said you supported 'White Pride'- they wouldn't have cared what you meant, just what perception would have been seen by the angry mob with pitchforks and torches.

[Insane Kangaroo]

fox,

Are the issues still occurring in your high school? For starters oppression of free speech and of your sexuality is a crime. I'd like to get it resolved if you're being oppression.

I'm known for causing drama and fixing issues, especially when it comes to legal issues. I will not tolerate any form of official oppression, even if it's not acted on my own person.