Are you Gay

[scooter]

Gay for this discussion means same sex love/sex.
Man + Man
Woman + Woman


Are you a Gay (Lesbian) if you sleep with a Drag Queen who thinks of themselves as female, but is biological a male (has all the male parts)?

If you are a Gay (Fagot) that sleeps with a Tom boy (opposite of Drag Queen), and they have all the female parts, but they are biological female. Are you still a Gay?

Same Questions reversed but:

Are you Straight?

This was the original question right?  Ok...

I think 99% of the time it's pretty simple, if someone (for the most part) get into relationships or are attracted most to the opposite sex then they are straight, if the opposite is true they are gay.  I don't think that a one time relationship with one or the other means anything in the grand scheme of labeling someone, it has to go on prolonged behaviour.

As for the 1%, I still think the above stays true.  If you are a woman married to a man and he decieds to get a sex change, does it make you a lesbian if you stay?  I don't think so, you were attracted to the person, not the sex of the person.  That doesn't mean that if the relationship ends you would seek out another woman or MTF, you would likely seek out another man.  There are sooo many other 'ifs' out there but I think you have to look at a the long term.  Even if a man goes for drag queens (repeatedly) then it is more likely that he is gay with a fettish rather than an open minded straight man interested in women.  Let's face it, sex is a nekid sport :-p

[Taylor-MadeAK]

HOLY HELL SCOOTER'S BACK!!

Where you been, man?  We've missed you around here!

[scooter]

Working too damn much :-p

HOLY HELL SCOOTER'S BACK!!

Where you been, man?  We've missed you around here!

[Bender]

Yes nekid sport! And the attraction is truly in that light, even when the room is dark.

I historically and predictably am attracted to the female, but once in a blue moon there appears this certain guy and wtf, a chemical reaction that will not be denied, if he's receptive I respond.

If I'm not otherwise commited that is...

Rare for sure, and I don't credit it with being Gay but, with such infrequency is Bi even on the radar.

Sure I can own up to that.

[Taylor-MadeAK]

I would actually call that "opportunistic bisexuality," and it's probably more common than many people would feel comfortable admitting to.

[Bender]

Well I wouldn't suggest mentioning it, if you didn't want it to own you.  But it happens and the cause is somewhere in my make-up.  No denying that.

Hey I'm in the midst of this 'gay' AutoCad lecture and am running into a difficulty, any of the staff have some knowledge.

Since all of you are here, at least were. 

[Taylor-MadeAK]

Nope.  I'm competent with Photoshop and sundry other programs, not to mention the lower-level OS type stuff, but AutoCAD is out of my bailiwick.

Don't bother asking Oni right now.  Not only does he know nothing about CAD software, he's also too drunk to give a coherent answer right now.  Before you mention it, no it's not off of TMAK brand saké - he's hitting the rum today.

[scooter]

Nope, the closest I came to doing AutoCad was designing Quake levels back in the day... AAAAAAAAHaha...

Well I wouldn't suggest mentioning it, if you didn't want it to own you.  But it happens and the cause is somewhere in my make-up.  No denying that.

Hey I'm in the midst of this 'gay' AutoCad lecture and am running into a difficulty, any of the staff have some knowledge.

Since all of you are here, at least were. 

[Eternimus]

I have a book on AutoCAD but I don't use it just yet. Sorry.

scooter: Welcome Back, thought you evaporated or something. I have a question about your 1% post. Yes, they may have been attracted to the person they married as a person, as opposed to a gender, but if the partner gets a sex change and they stay, but they are still sexual, doesn't that constitute a lesbian (or in that example, actually bi) sexuality? Emotionally they are with a man, perhaps. But sexually they are intimately embracing a woman. There has to be some sort of attraction or the physical aspect of a relationship is moot. And as humans are the most sexual species, unfortunately most relationships are, as well, sexual. If you take away the physical attraction, many relationships wither and crumble. So for your example to stick, there has to be some level of attraction, outside the physical. Unless the sexual aspect goes away, in which case let us hope the relationship has much more to stand on.

Oni and Fox: Oni, if Fox got a sex change, would you still be physical? Fox, if Oni got a sex change, would you still be physical?

If my wife got a sex change, we'd no longer have a physical relationship. We'd still be good friends, and room mates. But it wouldn't go further than that.

For everyone else: If your partner got a sex change, would your relationship stay physical? And if not, how long could it last without sex?

[Oni]

Quake map of 5th Ave Mall.

*thinks back*

[Taylor-MadeAK]

I gotta admit I'm with Eternimus on this one.  A frequent occurrence that I'm sure hasn't escaped Oni or Fox's notice.

[Bender]

Cool, it all works out eventually anyway, Cad that is...thanks you all none the less.

and that was coherent form Oni~c@!  But perhaps he didn't remember correctly...did he?

I forget what everclear weighs in at, but your sake @ 17% could curtale the ability to type, long before coherence failed, I'd wager.(how'd ya place the `...no that's backwards).

Agreed on the attraction aspect.  Shallow as it is, if a love was never developed for anything else but the flesh, the flesh had better remain lovable.  But I hold on, because that's a hard call when the flesh goes south from weight gain or loss in extremes, somebody you love is in there still living.
Now if my girl came home with a bran-spanken-new penis, I had better have been in on the positive side of the decision process or it's time to call the U-haul.  Still if I thought it was the best thing I wouldn't qualify for more than street level bi.  I new a guy with some great chest implants and that was the attraction, and without a great Platonic friendship previous (and some serious drinking at the bar where he showed up, no way, would  have happened, maybe.
When there is still a hearty physical attraction and a dislike is developed for the way a partner thinks it makes it much easier to go.  So says I, anyway.

[scooter]

scooter: Welcome Back, thought you evaporated or something. I have a question about your 1% post. Yes, they may have been attracted to the person they married as a person, as opposed to a gender, but if the partner gets a sex change and they stay, but they are still sexual, doesn't that constitute a lesbian (or in that example, actually bi) sexuality?

What if they had been married so long that sex just didn't happen anymore anyway :-p

Yea, yea, yea... I'm being a smart ass...  Long day

[Oni]

So it's like TM and his wife?

[scooter]

Huh-wha?  TM had a sex change?