That is so gay

[Oni]

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ok that commercial is gay...

and people wonder why nobody takes the gay community seriously.

Ya there is a point to it. But sh** .... that's  so fucking gay....

wait wait..

that's  so TMAK, Etern, Rot, Goman, Oni, and Fox.... *sigh*


Here's your topic discuss lol. I am actually curious what others think about this....and YESH there is more than just that one commercial on tv.

[Taylor-MadeAK]

Deep Thought time:

Why they're not wrong for speaking like that: This isn't the first time the word "gay" has been co-opted as a slang word to have a new and completely unrelated meaning.  Since its origin back in the 12^th Century, the word simply meant "fully of joy or mirth."  It didn't become a slang word for "homosexual" until 800 years later in the early 20^th Century (1951 according to the Oxford English Dictionary, but other sources assert that homosexuals used this word to describe themselves as early as 1920).  It has now been in use for so long that it is no longer considered to be slang, but if 20^th Century homosexuals can take an eight hundred year old word and use it as slang with an entirely different meaning, why can't 21^st Century teenagers do the same?

Why they are wrong: The current slang use of the word "gay" to express negative feelings toward a person or event by teenagers and young adults is based on the word's more recent meaning of "homosexual."  It's really just another way of saying "this fucking sucks," complete with sexual connotations.  This is why members and supporters of the homosexual community (and most other rational adults) are offended by the use of the word in this manner: you are taking a word that should not have any negative meaning, and using it in a derisive manner.

[Rottweiler]

Well, that and saying "That is sooooo Armenian" requires far too much knowledge of geopolitics.

Honestly, I agree with the term being a bad thing.

Things I also despise:

'Axing' a question
People who dress like a stereotype of of a recognized criminal element and whine when they get treated like it.

[Oni]

Thing is though. Why take offense to some one saying "that's so gay"

Though if you go around and start telling people that are having a good day. "Dude your so gay."

Are we going to get in trouble for telling them they are happy?

What about the term Fagot. I don't see people complaining that that term derived from a smoke. And they are just being called something you put in your lips and suck.... wait... ah.... ok now i see why "gays" wouldn't complain about that.

I can see why they are complaining. But isn't that why the English Language has so many  words. Because we have to be "politically correct."

but if 20th Century homosexuals can take an eight hundred year old word and use it as slang with an entirely different meaning, why can't 21st Century teenagers do the same?

Because as you can see. Some one would complain about it. lol

Words evolve and change over time. I am sure that's  not the only word that has changed over time.

Course I look at that advert. and see... "okay next you will be telling me I can't tell that joke because some one might take offense to it"

I use the term "that's so gay." fairly often. Why cause alot of things just suck. I am not saying "that's  just as dump as being homosexual" I am simply saying "that sucks alot" and it's mearly a different way of saying it.

Though if you want to spend all your money on an advert, to send a message. Go for it. Ya it's a good message, but I think they are going about it all wrong. For eg, the girls were not insulting anybody. If that lady toook offense to it, she should not have been ease droping.

I had a friend who use to get on peoples cases when they would say things like that, or call other people gay that were not (even when they did it in jest).

So I Axed him what happens when some one calls him gay. (him being gay) said, well it's empowering, and makes me feel good.

I just got this image of.

"hay you Queer"
*Catches the word out of the air holds it up above his head and shouts*

I HAVE THE POWER!

and then the words flash over above him "QueerMan"

[Taylor-MadeAK]

Oni, you gotta stop drinking before noon, man.

What about the term Fagot. I don't see people complaining that that term derived from a smoke. And they are just being called something you put in your lips and suck.... wait... ah.... ok now i see why "gays" wouldn't complain about that.

Obviously you didn't research this.  The word "faggot" has its ultimate root in the Latin fascis meaning "bundle of wood."  The word evolved into "faggot" meaning "bundle of twigs bound up" in 1279, and was used especially to describe wood used for burning heretics.  It was also often used as a derogatory term for a woman, usually an old and unpleasant one (bundle of sticks, get it?). 

Your notion that the word means "cigarette" is actually mistaken.  The British slang "fag" meaning "the butt of a smoked cigarette" is actually an entirely different word and not just short for "faggot."

[Oni]

ah. Learn something new everyday. lol.

[Eternimus]

Well, that and saying "That is sooooo Armenian" requires far too much knowledge of geopolitics.

That would be funny as hell for someone to say in context.

My wife says "That's so gay" or something to that effect on a regular basis. Her being bisexual, I consider it akin to a black man using the word "nigger" which, as we all know, isn't considered offensive to other blacks. Myself, I rarely, if ever, use the phrase. I usually just say "That fucking sucks." "That's lame" "How pathetic." you know, things to that effect.

However this brings up a more serious point. Politically correct phrases and such. Now we all were teenagers once. Some of us never got past that phase. And we all know teenagers from different times spoke differently, and the overall language evolved and expanded because of it. Some people think phrases like "That's so gay" is hurtful, and uses the valley girls as an example. But some people have made a huge amount of money doing that very thing. Like the kids' show "That's so Raven" a show starring Raven Simone. So it may not be always such a bad thing to have something "That's so... <insert random word here>." And yet there is still another point to be made.

As Oni pointed out, he uses "That's so gay" and is, in fact, gay. My wife is bisexual and she uses it. My friend JJ who announces himself as the queen bitch of all the Valley says the phrase rather regularly. And I've never heard them take flak for it, not have they ever mentioned taking flak for it. It's when straight people do it that seems to cause an uproar. Just as when a white man uses the phrase "nigger" it causes an uproar. There is no reason for it. Yes, for a long time it was used as a slander, and sometimes it still is. And many times it's used as a term of endearment. Or just a general term used for any black man by other black men. If you need proof of that just listen to any one of a myriad of rap songs. If it's offensive, then don't use it. At all. Period. Now I know the argument for that. "No, NIGGER is offensive. NIGGA is a friendly word." Try to say "Yo, 'sup nigga?" to any black person as a white one, and see what happens. I'm certain it would lead to violence. No doubt there are exceptions, but my point still stands.

If gays don't want people to use the phrase "That's so gay" then they 1) need to stop using it themselves, and 2) think up another slang for "This sucks donkey dong" and spread it around to the younger generation. Make it stick, and "That's so gay" will be eventually phased out. And for blacks who want "nigger" to go away, I'd say stick with "dog" like you used before, but then the dogs may make a commercial too, so you're on your own there.

I want politically correct to go away, but that would mean something like killing all the democrats or something, so I'm screwed there. I'm not a republican, nor am I a democrat, but since they seem to be the more douche-baggy political group I figured if we didn't have democrats we wouldn't have political correctness. But then we wouldn't have a democracy. We would have a republic, where a group of people just say what's best for us and do it whether we like it or not.

Hey! Don't they do that anyway? But I digress...

It's gonna be pretty hard for those terms to go away though. Long as we have American Nazis, we will have derogatory terms for black people. Who then turn around and use them on their own trying to soften the blow in the future.

That's the solution. Gays, you need to start applying that term to things like pretty shoes and stuff, so it ends up meaning "that's so fashionable!" rather than "that sucks hardcore."

[Goman Fox]

If gays don't want people to use the phrase "That's so gay" then they 1) need to stop using it themselves, and 2) think up another slang for "This sucks donkey dong" and spread it around to the younger generation. Make it stick, and "That's so gay" will be eventually phased out. And for blacks who want "nigger" to go away, I'd say stick with "dog" like you used before, but then the dogs may make a commercial too, so you're on your own there.

Wow, I can picture that too:
"Bark bark bark, woof, ruffruff grrrr, bark woof 'gay' bark bark ruff"

[Im1ru1]

get off of the "word" bandwagon folks...this all reminds me of a conversation that I had yesterday...I was talking to friends about the whole gay marriage thing, and I asked them what the hell is the difference if it's called Marriage, Domestc Partnership or even Credenza...AS LONG AS the net effect is that all of the benefits (which I thought were the goal here) are conveyed.  We're getting hung up on WORDS...and if we spent as much time trying to change the world as we spend trying to change the words...we'd live in a much better place

[foxguardian]

i watched that commercial and literally the first thing i said was " wow that commercial es` gay ..." then my friend pitched in "ya the acting sucked balls too" then a little self realization hit and we started laughing.

in all seriousness if you have a problem with how people talk and want to do something about it, there would be a big war back and forth about the bad things on both sides.
Really if you're freakin out about something like that you just need to get a life or at least come to realize that with such a large mixed racial community your bound to see and hear things you won't like in every day life just like every one ells. it happens get over it.

now if someone was purposefully directing a comment towards you in means of insult then go right ahead solve your problems how ever you like.

imagine a high school student in a small town with only a couple hundred kids, no one is at all going to care if you don't like their slang as a matter of fact most will find it a as a weakness and taunt you with it.
go ahead say something to your parents and teachers it wont help it will still happen somewhere sometime.
that's usually the point in your life that you learn that there are much more important things going on and if not then you have no life and you need to go back to you moms basement and play some WOW lol


sorry had to use the WOW... it a really big thing here
 i play too but not excessively .

[Donkey1499]

If gays don't want people to use the phrase "That's so gay" then they 1) need to stop using it themselves, and 2) think up another slang for "This sucks donkey dong" and spread it around to the younger generation. Make it stick, and "That's so gay" will be eventually phased out. And for blacks who want "nigger" to go away, I'd say stick with "dog" like you used before, but then the dogs may make a commercial too, so you're on your own there.

I want politically correct to go away, but that would mean something like killing all the democrats or something, so I'm screwed there. I'm not a republican, nor am I a democrat, but since they seem to be the more douche-baggy political group I figured if we didn't have democrats we wouldn't have political correctness. But then we wouldn't have a democracy. We would have a republic, where a group of people just say what's best for us and do it whether we like it or not.

Hey! Don't they do that anyway? But I digress...
That's the solution. Gays, you need to start applying that term to things like pretty shoes and stuff, so it ends up meaning "that's so fashionable!" rather than "that sucks hardcore."

O_o; ... I pretty much agree with everything else stated here. But to get rid of democrats you don't need to kill them, per se. But one could remove Obama and put Bush back in again. They'd all flee to Canada and France, most likely. <.<;

[Goman Fox]

Eh, that would only be beneficial if we were to replace Bush immediately after that.

All politicians are bad in their own way, it's really a "lesser of two evils" sort of thing, and after eight years of Bush Jr. I'm happy to have a different evil in power.  Well, maybe not happy but at least it's a change.

[Oni]

i watched that commercial and literally the first thing i said was " wow that commercial es` gay ..." then my friend pitched in "ya the acting sucked balls too" then a little self realization hit and we started laughing.

that's  Irony I think. LOL


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I know I am really beating a dead horse here. But wow "These are soooo gay." By "Gay" I do mean Supid, over the top, not getting the point across, fat guy on a harley who revs it's engine just to get attention.

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Okay so this Commercial kinda gets the point across but damn was it "Jewish" (IE Penny pinching cheep).

See I realize what I am saying. It's a bloody word, that defines a people. Some how though I highly doubt when you fail a test and say "that's  so gay" you mean that paper was some hot man on man action.

When a Rabi is walking down the street and some one says "Look a Jew."  And you respond with "God Bless you." It's funny.

It's the context behind the word, not the word it's self. Are we that PC that we can't speak our mind anymore.

[Goman Fox]

If these commercials send any message to me at all, it's that gay people generally have the right idea when they take a stand on something, but go about it the wrong way.

In this example, they don't like being referenced in a derogatory way, that makes sense.  But the commercial comes off as being whiny more than anything.  Hell, I'm tempted to say "that's so gay" more often now because of it, especially in reference to those commercials.

The other example I can think of is gay people wanting to be noticed and respected as equal members of society.  Again, makes sense to me, everyone should have the chance to be treated the same (until you make others realize you're a jackass anyways).  So what do they do to raise awareness? Strip down to their underwear, dress in women's clothing, or put on assless chaps and walk down a busy street once a year (in many towns around the country).  ...Yeah... that really gets the message across.  I don't even want to support gay rights after seeing some of the crap they do during the pride parades here in town, and it's probably tame for a gay event compared to the rest of the country.. x.x

[Zeake]

I don’t know I kind of agree with these commercials. With the miss use of the term “Gay” its different people use other terms like “Jew” but only really referring to the stereotype. When people miss use the term “Gay” their totally destroying it their not referring to a stereotype, their redefining it to describe something; lame, stupid or ugly none of which define any “Gay” Individual. I think they should stop.