God in School

[Oni]

Should we teach the bible in public schools?

What do you think?

Should creationism, be tought along side evolutionism?

Should we teach about the bible in schools?

Should religion be brought into public schools?

-WHY? please tell me why to all of the above. And your feelings on the matter, and how you come to that conclusion-

[Rosa D.]

No.

Isn't that what Christian schools are for?

No.

No.

Not really.

[Oni]

Meow,
I have added an extra question can you re answer please

[Rachael]

I don't think the Bible really belongs in K-12 schools, because something of that magnitude would need an entire specialized class to study.  I believe it has its place in colleges, where it is looked at from an objective point of view.

I don't think Creationism should be taught along with evolution, simply because Creationism is more of a religious doctrine than a science.  Yes, there are people who apply the scientific method to Creationism, but the overall agenda is religious in nature.  Plus, evolution is far more complicated.  You want to know about Creationism?  Read the Bible.  It's pretty much laid out in the first couple chapters of Genesis.  Whether you choose to take it literally or figuratively, that's basically the tenant of Creationism.  Really nothing to teach.

Religion has two places in the school.  The subject matter of religion--what the basic concepts of each religion are, the history of the religion, and such--can be taught in certain classes, namely history or literature classes.  The other place is in student-led Bible clubs or youth groups.  Those can be held during lunch or any time that doesn't interfere with class.  As long as they are not sponsored by any staff member, there is nothing unconstitutional about these meetings.

And of course, no student should be banned from wearing religious symbology or having a religious text in school, provided they do not harass other people by proselytizing.

[Kritter]

I believe religion being taught in schools should not be allowed. The only exception to that rule is if a class is talking about other major religions also. When I was in high school, the Christian religion was taught and so were Islamic, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Muslim. I actually enjoy learning about other religion and didn’t felt that the school was trying to teach one religion in particular.

When it comes to prayer, it should not be practiced in school. The only time a prayer can take place is if a student/faculty/teacher is praying to themselves. Public schools should not make students “pray”. There are a lot of non Christian believers who attends public school. If they want to have prayer in schools, then go to a private Christian school.

All this also applies to any other religion. But since this country is Christian based, it leans more towards it.

[Oni]

Meow,
I think that if it is tought in schools, it should not be done in a religious way. Maybe in a historical way, or in a English works class. Religion should stay out of schools. The history of religion is fine, but it has been my experience that schools are a place to learn, and are a place of reason and science. Religion requires faith. Faith and reason do not mix. Science and religion and agree at times, but even then you really have to streatch what you are teaching to get them to mix.
As far as what should be tough Creationism or Evolutionism. If you are just teaching theories and idea’s than you can point out both. But if you are teaching SCIENCE then teach science. Granted Evolutionism is based on science, the exact point of the start of evolution is still a theory. Meaning unsure. So it should not be tought as fact, unless it can be proven as fact beyond a reasonable doubt.
If you have religious classes, like the study of religion then put the bible there, along with every other religious text. If you are teaching theology then the bible has a place there. But it does not have a place in the fact, reason, or science classes. It has a place in extra criculiam classes.
If religion is brought to public schools it should only be in a way to teach ABOUT that religion, not as a way to CONVERT students.

[Goman Fox]

Like other people said, the only time the Bible or Christianity (or other religions) should be mentioned in school is when it's talked about historically.  Obviously religions had a huge impact in World History, even US History, so to say that schools shouldn't mention religion at all would be a bit extreme.

As for the beliefs of these religions, the only place I could see them being appropriate would be in a Religion class that covers a lot of major religions, even minor ones if possible.  I think there was a class like that in my High School, although I only heard about it after I graduated so I'm not sure.

As for the schools that teach "intelligent design" along with evolution in their science classes...  Honestly, I don't see how they can get away with it.  It has its place in religious settings or religious classes, but not in a science class.  I mean, it would be like putting in the old beliefs that bad things happened to people because they were possessed by evil spirits back into science curriculums.  We know microscopic things exist that make us sick, so the idea of "evil spirits" and "bad blood" as the causes of illness got thrown out.

Intelligent design I really can't see as ever being labeled as a science.  Evolution fits in a science class because, obviously, there are studies that suggest that evolution exists.  The only suggestion that intelligent design exists is in religious texts and the idea that "the Universe couldn't have been created by chance, therefore something intelligent must have designed it."  Now I'm not saying that it's wrong, honestly I don't know the origins of the Universe (maybe it was a bit of both) but I do know intelligent design isn't a science.

As for what Kritter said, I really don't think this country should be labeled "Christian based."  Although certain political things recently can make it seem like it is.  I could be wrong, but I thought the country was founded on the belief that people could practice whatever religion they choose and not have other religions forced on them.  When I hear people use the argument "this country was based on Christian beliefs and the Bible says being gay is wrong, so gay marriage is wrong" I just... I dunno, wanna pick the person apart for all the things wrong in their statement.

Of course, my knowledge of the US Constitution comes entirely from a US History class in a public high school, so I wouldn't be surprised if I was completely wrong.   I just think that the government enforcing a religious belief (or religious beliefs in general) is supposed to be unconstitutional...  Again, I could be wrong.

[5m3rk]

Should we teach the bible in public schools?
 
Yes and No.  Yes in regards to the fact that it is one the most sold books of all time.  So in a Lit/Religion class, yes it should be taught, but at the same time if you are going to teach about one, then you need to also include other religious text as well (Koran for ex.).

Should creationism, be taught along side evolutionism?
Yes - Because both are theories and since neither of them have been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, they should be taught together.  "But there is not enough to teach about creationism" ... Yes and know, I could say the same for evolution, "everything changes to adapt" ... Creationism, while based in religion, still has some "truth" to it. I do not think that evolution be taught EXCLUSIVE, there should be at least something said for the other viewpoints so that kids are at least aware of whats out there and can make their own choice.

Should we teach about the bible in schools?
Is this a repeat ... lol ... I have already said what i needed to say about the public side.  Private schools are just that, private - so they can do whatever they want. That said, they should give several major viewpoints when teaching.

Should religion be brought into public schools?
Pray over your own meal at lunch - that should not offend anyone.  Having prayer before class/etc - should be at the discretion of the school.  Should you be forced to pray if that is not your thing - no.  Private schools, well that is a different story - but at the same time not forced.  Should Religion be taught - yes.  It would broaden the viewpoint of the kids - but wait till high school, so that the mental capacity to differentiate is there and they can decide what they want to follow.  Why teach it? Would there be as much "hatred" for other religions if schools taught about the Muslim, Hindu, etc.  If you knew more about them, you would have a better understanding why  classmates of those religions did not attend certain things, eat a certain way etc.

[Rachael]

Actually, evolution is as about as factual as you can get.  That's what a theory is.  In science, unlike in vernacular English, a "theory" is something that has been put to the test time and time again, and still holds.  It doesn't mean a "suggestion" or "idea."  That's what a hypothesis is.

When scientists say "the theory of evolution," they are saying, "This is the simplest, most likely, most logical explanation for the origin of the universe as we know it.  It is accepted as fact within the scientific community."

So a theory in science does not mean "We don't know for sure."  It means "If something completely disproves the theory of evolution, then we will change our views.  But for now, we are as sure of evolution as we can be of anything."

[Goman Fox]

And adding on to what Rachael said, but for creationism, you can't really compare it to evolution as the same type of theory.  Evolution is a scientific theory while creationism is... uh, theological?  Not sure if that's the right wording, but you all (hopefully) know what I mean.   So I really don't think creationism (or Intelligent Design as they call it in schools) has a place in science classes.  Religion classes it makes sense, but not science.

Short of proving that God (or any other higher power) doesn't exist, you cannot disprove creationism, and that really doesn't fit how scientific theories work.  If they find evidence that evolution is all wrong, the theory of evolution as we know it would get thrown out the window.

The overwhelming consensus in the scientific community is that intelligent design is not science;[7] The National Science Teachers Association and others have termed it pseudoscience,[8] and some have termed it junk science.[9] The U.S. National Academy of Sciences has stated that intelligent design "and other claims of supernatural intervention in the origin of life" are not science because they cannot be tested by experiment, do not generate any predictions, and propose no new hypotheses of their own.[10]

It really wouldn't hurt to have Intelligent Design being taught in schools if it was done in the proper way.  In schools now that teach it in science classes alongside Evolution, I think they're crazy and completely wrong.  Well, public schools anyways, private schools can do whatever they want, I don't care.

[Kritter]

Can you teach beaner creation in school. We all come from mexico

[Oni]

I dont know if they want to hear about that.

[Kritter]

You jackass! I didn't make that post. I know that because I will NEVER state "we all come from mexico".

[Oni]

well not even admin can log in as you. so dont know what to tell you.

lol...

oh ya...
dont leave your puter alone.

[ViewSonic]

The idea's of God and his teachings should be tought everywere. Even in school. If you look at todays schools it is defently needed. God even shows up in killing movies like The Matrix. Neo was Jesus. The One Profficied about, came to be, died, and resurected to save man kind.