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Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« on: 2007, June 25, 07:03:18 am »
What do you guys think it was and why?
If you have the knowledge this is a prefered Essay Question.
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #1 on: 2007, June 25, 12:39:25 pm »
There's really no evidence one way or the other. John was called "the beloved disciple", but that doesn't imply sex. Jesus was a Rabbi (I'm not going to quote chapter and verse; but he was addressed as 'rabbi' at least once in the gospels -something which a title not given lightly) and that implies -if he was doing everything which he was supposed to be doing then he would have been married (which he would have been to have been "a man without sin" as the bible states him as being). I say this because I believe that was expected of rabbis then (but I could be wrong).

But again, there's no real evidence that Jesus was gay, straight or what.

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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #2 on: 2007, June 26, 12:11:09 pm »
The bloke hung out with an entourage of men willing to do anything he said on a whim. What was his orientation?

Oni has people that are pretty much the same way, has an entourage... the bulk of which are male. And he tries to teach kinda like Jesus did, only alot of times he is way more condescending... So... yeah. You do the math.
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #3 on: 2007, June 26, 12:14:58 pm »
Only in the fact that Jesus claimed to be the Son of God and I claim to be a God. ...

mmm So I am the next Christ eh... This could be fun.
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #4 on: 2007, June 26, 12:40:51 pm »
Yeah it's gonna be alot of fun. Means we get to staple you to railroad ties with iron spikes, after making you carry that heavy SOB down a road and up a hill, then make you wear a pointy headband, drink vinegar, and stab you with a spear. And then everyone can hate you and millions die because of what you said. Doesn't sound like alot of fun. I was just pointing out the similarity in orientation.
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #5 on: 2007, June 26, 12:42:54 pm »
Ya know sadly I never noticed that simuarity. I knew I tought simular idea's as him...but now that you point it out...hehe hay thanks for the ego stroke. So I guess Jesus when compared to me was GAY. YAY for Jesus. I knew I liked him...
And to answer your question. ... The last part sounds fun but the first bit seems kinds boring really.
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #6 on: 2007, June 26, 12:45:43 pm »
But we musn't forget the beatings. I saw the Passion damn it. That didn't look like alot of fun. And the stoning as you carry the cross. And not the magical green plant kind, the hunks of granite against your skull kind.
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #7 on: 2007, June 26, 12:51:16 pm »
So glad I am a Gay Cat God...dont have to worry about stoning.


Now were did I leave my cat nip
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #8 on: 2007, June 27, 08:45:46 am »
Though more on topic lol. I think that Jesus, if you just use his teachings as a baseline for his sexual orientation. Was Asexual (I think is the right term) He didnt love based on sex of the person. Not bi sexual as in attracted to both sexes, he just loved. And if he did take a mate or a companion, then it would have been based on love. Jesus could have very well shared him self with Mary, and John, but we will never know. Looking at his teachings he saw beyond the serface of the person, and loved unconditionaly all those around and not around him. And with unconditional love there are no limits on a persons gender. The love just is.
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #9 on: 2007, June 29, 12:03:29 pm »
I think Jesus was either straight or simply did not have a companion.

There is nothing in the accepted version of the Bible that implies he had any sort of romantic relationship.  If we go by other books that have been found recently, many of them point to Jesus having a relationship and possible marriage with Mary Magdalene.  Furthermore, as Random pointed out, if he were really a rabbi (and some people believe he wasn't an "official" rabbi, but was addressed that way because he was a teacher with a large following), he would probably have been married.

The whole "He hung around with a bunch of men, so he MUST be gay" argument ticks me off, honestly.  For one thing, that really doesn't mean anything, if you really think about it.  Many people have a large group they hang out with who are all one gender.  In fact, it would have looked rather suspicious if all of Jesus's followers were women.

Secondly, there were women who followed Jesus.  They weren't one of the 12, but they were often in his presence.  Mary Magdalene, Mary his mother, Martha, Mary sister of Martha...the Bible simply pays more attention to the men.

I don't often think about Jesus's sexual orientation because I simply don't think of him that way.  For a long time, I thought this man was God, and I still might.  And if he's not, then he's still someone I look up to.  Like a father or a brother.  So I really never liked these topics. But I still post in them.
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #10 on: 2007, June 29, 12:13:37 pm »
Does his sexual orientation really matter when it comes to what he tought? Or would him having a sexual orientation that is not of the "Accepted Version" of the bible (and witch on is that NIV, NAS, KSV, Origional Texts, ect) have a big impact on what his teachings were?
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #11 on: 2007, June 30, 10:37:50 am »
(and witch on is that NIV, NAS, KSV, Origional Texts, ect)
The original texts, obviously. Everyone knows that the KJV was distorted, the NIV is based on the KJV.

Personally, when I was a Christian I always wanted to get one of the (EXPENSIVE) "interlinear" bibles: the ones that had the original text (in the original language) on one side of the page and the literal translation on the other.

If you aren't going to go on the original source material, then why bother at all, IMO.

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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #12 on: 2007, July 02, 09:16:09 am »
Sadly People dont really reconize the origional texted. If they did I think there would be a more interesting christian following.

"The NIV is the most widely accepted contemporary Bible translation today. More people today buy the NIV Bible than any other English-language translation."

Is what I can find on the internet about the most comminly used bibles.

Top 10 Bibles
March 2007 —

General Versions & Translations

   1. King James Version   (various publishers)
   2. New International Version   (various publishers)
   3. New Century Version  (W Publishing Group)
   4. New King James Version   (various publishers)
   5. The New Living Translation   (Tyndale)
   6. English Standard Version (Crossway)
   7. Holman Christian Standard Bible (Broadman & Holman)
   8. New American Standard Bible Update   (various publishers)
   9. The Message (Eugene Peterson)
  10. Reina Valera 1960 (Spanish - various publishers)

Source: CBA International

No were in there do I see the origional texts. I see alot of varietions of the same book. The Origional texts are only found in circles of schoalers and those that seek them out.

So what would happen if Jesus's sexuality was different that what was in these books. Say he was Gay, Bi, having no preference, a sexual, ect. Would it change the message of these books?
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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #13 on: 2007, July 02, 10:08:40 am »
Sadly People dont really reconize the origional texted. If they did I think there would be a more interesting christian following.

"The NIV is the most widely accepted contemporary Bible translation today. More people today buy the NIV Bible than any other English-language translation."

Is what I can find on the internet about the most comminly used bibles.

Top 10 Bibles
March 2007 —

General Versions & Translations

   1. King James Version   (various publishers)
   2. New International Version   (various publishers)
   3. New Century Version  (W Publishing Group)
   4. New King James Version   (various publishers)
   5. The New Living Translation   (Tyndale)
   6. English Standard Version (Crossway)
   7. Holman Christian Standard Bible (Broadman & Holman)
   8. New American Standard Bible Update   (various publishers)
   9. The Message (Eugene Peterson)
  10. Reina Valera 1960 (Spanish - various publishers)

Source: CBA International

No were in there do I see the origional texts. I see alot of varietions of the same book. The Origional texts are only found in circles of schoalers and those that seek them out.
Well, there's always The Interlinear Hebrew-Greek-English Bible, One-Volume Edition
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This is the only complete interlinear Bible available in English and is also on one convenient volume. This interlinear is keyed to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance. Interlinears are a time-saving tool for you to research the subtle nuances and layers of meaning within the original biblical languages and this one features the complete Hebrew and Greek texts with a direct English rendering below each word, and it also includes The Literal Translation of the Bible in the outside column. Strong's numbers are printed directly above the Hebrew and Greek words which enabling you to easily access a wealth of language reference works that are also keyed to StrongÂ’s such as Greek/Hebrew dictionaries, analytical lexicons, concordances, word studies, and more even if you do not know Greek and Hebrew.

The Hebrew is based on the Masoretic Text and the Greek is from the Textus Receptus. The sources of the texts are documented in the preface, and are essentially the same (with some minor variations) to the Hebrew and Greek texts used by the KJV translators.
So what would happen if Jesus's sexuality was different that what was in these books. Say he was Gay, Bi, having no preference, a sexual, ect. Would it change the message of these books?
I don't believe it would make one bit of difference. Then again, I'm not christian.  8)

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Re: Sexual Orientation of Jesus Christ
« Reply #14 on: 2007, July 02, 10:09:45 am »
I think Jesus was "Strait" but choose to have no sexual relationships with anyone, I feel that a partner would have caused a misdirection in his goal of safing human kind from there sins.
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