What is sex?

[lazydullard]

plushophilia is technically masturbation, isn't it? so its vore/micro/macro... unless you know some irl titans and sprites.

hasn't everyone expirement with stuffed animals when they were younger? it's perfectly normal, right? you all make me look like the sexual deviant on this site.

i think people can have healthy sex with animals. i know someone with a masters in philosophy who's a zoophile.  he does horses and dogs. but anyways, i think that's outside the scope of most people's definitition and consideration of sex, unless someone has a nice healthy curiousity like me? i don't think he's up to debating on this website (though maybe!), but i can show people some quality conversations he's had if anyone's curious.

challenging your definitions and understandings is what the internet is for. although the internet usually doesn't ask for permission first.

[inkydragon27]

plushophilia is technically masturbation, isn't it? so its vore/micro/macro... unless you know some irl titans and sprites.

hm... I guess so.. You've got me there, LD. There's just something I oppose of, that defecating on then masturbating with lets say a soft toy. I'm concerned of the health issues first of, but secondly it's the sake  of my stomach. Though, you can argue, they're entitled to do whatever the hel they want with their plushies XD Guaranteed, I won't be going on their websites telling them what to do. I just have to tell my friends NOT to be so disturbing as to send me links.

Um... I gotta say no on doin stuff with plush animals. Can't really say that was ever my kinda thing. I dunno, you just do stuff that bit different that's  all.. I don't think it's fair to accuse everyone on this site of making you look like a sex dev.

I don't agree with you on the bestiality though. I just always find something fundamentally wrong about it. Call me wrong, whatever. I just feel sorry for the animals in most cases, or for when a larger animal is involved, for the human. I have a healthy curiosity, but I draw lines in certain places. I dunno, bestiality and paedophilia are two things I just plain disagree with.

Hell, I dont mind having them challenged ^^ This is what forums are for! Discussion.

[Goman Fox]

I dunno, bestiality and paedophilia are two things I just plain disagree with.

I have a few questions for you about the pedophilia thing then.  Don't get me wrong though, I don't at all agree with it, I'm just trying to make conversation here.

You disagree with pedophilia, but would you think it was wrong if you saw images that included someone that was over 18, but looked younger?  Obviously you probably wouldn't like seeing them, but would it be wrong if you knew all people in the image were 18+?

[inkydragon27]

As long as they are over 18. I don't approve of images where they take pics of kids doing gymnastics, etc. I do not agree with that at al- But I dunno- 18, by then hopefully you can take charge of your own life and you can do with it wat you will.

[Rachael]

Fox, as usual, puts things more succinctly than I can.

I do need to point out, however, that my comments about religious brainwashing weren't directed specifically at Rachael.  It's a general commentary on our national traditions in general and why I think they result in failed marriages and - even worse - teen pregnancy.  But, since my voiced opinions are being taken personally, I guess I'll go find something better to do...

...like make plans for celebrating our fourteenth anniversary a week from tomorrow....

Sorry about that.  Taking things personality is one of my bad habits, but the only thing I took personally was your "brainwashing" comment, and that was a mistake.  It was a good debate, though.

Love the cat macro.

What about furry sex....since we are on the topic of what is sex. What is Furry sex?

Disgusting Something some adults like to engage in for fun.  Often involves including animal characteristics (physical or behavioral) into the sex act.  This is not to be confused with bestiality, which involves an animal in the act, or plushophilia, which involves a stuffed animal in the act.

I don't have a problem with plushophilia.  Not really something I'm into, though.

[Goman Fox]

As long as they are over 18. ... But I dunno- 18, by then hopefully you can take charge of your own life and you can do with it wat you will.

So what is it about the age of 18 that's so special?  Why is it okay at 18 but not, say, 16 years old?  I've known tons of 18+ people that are nowhere near mature that probably shouldn't be making their own decisions, and some that would rather not make their own decisions.

So if the right and wrong comes more from maturity than anything, what would happen if there was a 16 year old that seemed to have enough control of their life, moreso than most 18 year olds?  Would images of that 16 year old be wrong?

[scooter]

18 is just some magic number that seperates you from K-12 and Adulthood...  Historically speaking, it wasn't that long ago that 12 yo's were getting married and having families...  but they would only live to be 30/40.  So they had to get busy, have kids and raise them before they died.

Can you imagine being married at that age?  Most of us masturbated 5 times a day.  Can you imagine having to choose between sex all the time at 12 yo and Algebra homework?

Now however, people need more education to get and hold a decent job, having kids at any age interfeers with getting an education, people frequently wait until after college now, so maybe historically there is nothing wrong with being attracted to someone in their teens it is extremely unfair to drag a child into the adult world (sex, etc) and expect them to continue on becoming a person of worth for society.

So 18 isn't special on it's own, but for the sake of society... for the sake of having decent employees and for the sake of having decent people in charge of this country when we're old and retired, we need to leave them be, let kids grow up slower so they can focus on learning while their brain is a sponge soaking everything up.  Otherwise the people making policy for your prescription meds will have grown up on sex, drugs and GED's.

[Taylor-MadeAK]

it is extremely unfair to drag a child into the adult world (sex, etc) and expect them to continue on becoming a person of worth for society.

QFT.

[Rachael]

Ben--It's true there's not much difference between a 16-year-old and an 18-year-old, but the line has to be drawn somewhere, and in our society, 18 makes the most sense.  Yes, there are many 18-year-olds who are immature, and many 16-year-olds who are mature, but the fact of the matter is, 18 is when we are considered "adults."  We can buy porn at 18, we can vote at 18, we can sign our own contracts at 18.  Of course, there are two other options--there's 16, which is the age of consent in most states, and 21, which is the legal drinking age in the U.S.

But I think we ought to keep the "minimum age for pornography" at 18, and here's why:

Let's say we lower the age to 16.  Aside from the general uproar, there will be people who say that's not enough.  After all, what's the difference between a 16-year-old and a 14-year-old?  So the age is lowered to 14.  But what's the difference between a 14-year-old and a 12-year-old?  A 10-year-old?

No matter where you draw the line, there will be people trying to lower it.  And that's just in real pornography.  Honestly, I'm not too fond of even drawn porn where I know there is no way that character is 18, and I'm more anal-retentive about it than some people are.  But I think 18, or at least 16, is where most people's comfort line is.

[Taylor-MadeAK]

I gotta agree with Rachael and Scooter on this point.  What I personally take issue with is that "adult age," "smoking age," and "drinking age" are three completely different ages.